The Cosworth Battle

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Which team will finish higher in the WCC?

Poll ended at Fri Feb 12 2010 10:03

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The Cosworth Battle

Post1 Posted by FB on Fri Feb 05 2010 10:03

Assuming all the Cosworth powered teams make the grid I thought it might be interesting, before the cars have all been tested, to see which team we all think will finish higher in the constructors championship. Who knows, if it's a popular poll I might run one for the other engines on the grid :goodday:
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Post2 Posted by sobriety on Fri Feb 05 2010 10:14

Gotta be Williams, purely as they're the only team who aren't new.
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Post3 Posted by snowy on Fri Feb 05 2010 10:22

It would require quite a stupendous effort and an inordinate amount of good fortune for one of the new fish to beat Williams.

With no disrespect to Williams, I think they should be excluded on the grounds that they sacked both Nigel Mansell and Damon Hill after their respective World Championships, therefore robbing the UK of two multiple World Champions.

Lotus should theoretically be the best of the new gang of four, however the virgin Virgin looks exceedingly aestherically pleasing...
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Post4 Posted by cider_and_toast on Fri Feb 05 2010 16:07

It's got to be Williams hasn't it.

They'll be way ahead of the others when it comes to integrating the engine in to the chassis also they will have a significant advantage in race craft and race weekend management which the others are going to have to develop over the course of the season.
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Post5 Posted by siffert_fan on Fri Feb 05 2010 16:14

Williams has all of the advantages-expeirenced design team and team management, better drivers and, one would assume, more composure under pressure. If they are beaten by any of the other Cosworth teams, a SERIOUS shake-up will be in order.
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Post6 Posted by fat_jez on Fri Feb 05 2010 16:15

Not forgetting they had the same engine bolted onto the back of their chassis only a couple of seasons ago.
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Post7 Posted by Brogan on Fri Feb 05 2010 16:41

I have to agree with everyone else and go for Williams.

As has already been mentioned, they've been in F1 for a long time and are well used to changing engine suppliers.
Plus they've used Cosworth in the past so will have reams of data to work with already.
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Post8 Posted by Muddytalker on Fri Feb 05 2010 17:21

Team Willy here too, though I hovered over the Virgin momentarily, so to speak...
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Post9 Posted by GeoffP on Fri Feb 05 2010 18:51

Baaa!
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Post10 Posted by snowy on Fri Feb 05 2010 18:53

Ooh err... :twisted:
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Post11 Posted by McZiderRed on Fri Feb 05 2010 19:31

Unsurprisingly, I'm voting for Williams aswell. Although, after looking at the pics of the new Virgin*, I was can see where Muddytalker is coming from...

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Post12 Posted by GeoffP on Fri Feb 05 2010 21:59

McZiderRed said: * Hmmm. New Virgin. Isn't the word 'new' a redundant word? :confused:


Not sure, do you think we should ask Madonna or Britney Spears? :scorn:
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Post13 Posted by teabagyokel on Sat Feb 06 2010 17:22

Surely Virgin/Lotus/Campos/USF1 need one vote! There's something so right about "Lotus Cosworth" so long as there's not a Malaysian flag near it...
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Post14 Posted by Boyle99 on Sat Feb 06 2010 19:29

Williams have got to be odds on to win the Cosworth Battle due to their experience in F1. It will also be interesting to see how much of an advantage they will be able to gain with their KERS system (it will win them a few midfield battles me thinks!).

The Virgin does look nice and fast and it will be interesting to see how much progress they can make. However, the herd mentality is just so strong...
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Post15 Posted by Brogan on Sat Feb 06 2010 19:50

Boyle99 said: It will also be interesting to see how much of an advantage they will be able to gain with their KERS system

Are Williams still running KERS despite the FOTA agreement not to?
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Post16 Posted by Boyle99 on Sun Feb 07 2010 03:28

Brogan said: Are Williams still running KERS despite the FOTA agreement not to?


So far as I know, Williams have not taken a pledge to not use KERS this season. But I have been wrong before. Could someone please be bothered to check :D
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Post17 Posted by snowy on Sun Feb 07 2010 11:05

I was recently assured they had now fallen into line.

However they invested a lot of time and money in their system and are probably very upset by the present agreement.

And there is this:

After that, Williams was invited to re-enter the FOTA alliance.

"We were conscious that one of the conditions was that KERS is not permitted in 2010," the Briton said. "We expressed that we think it is the wrong decision, but accept the rules of the club."

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Re: The Cosworth Battle

Post18 Posted by FB on Mon Feb 08 2010 10:00

Wiliams have this on the side of their car which is either a bit of publicity to try and get some interest in their technology or a straight wind-up to the other teams.

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As to the question, it's difficult to see past Williams in this battle but they have been in a serious Tyrrell like decline for a number of years now. I think they will win the Cosworth battle this year but by seasons end could well be behind Virgin and ProtonLotus.
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Re: The Cosworth Battle

Post19 Posted by GeoffP on Mon Feb 08 2010 11:47

Let's face it, with expectations riding so high there's no "slightly" wrong for Williams. It either goes right, or very very wrong
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